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[ he stares at it a while in complete silence, brain hitching in what's gone, what's left.

at some point, the faces around them had grown so fewer, hadn't they? ]

From:

finalbows

[ he reaches to empty air and curls his fingers, and a pen has found it's way into his hand. his eyes have stayed riveted to the list. ]

From:

finalbows

[ he starts cramming spidery little words into the margins. Lost of them. ]

ENCODING
Need to ensoul body. Too little time for chance of error.

option A: kill willing sacrifice, put into Genome body, retrieve Function Ball, kill Genome body if it survives, return sacrifice to their own body.

Cons: mental resiliency of most potential cooperative parties is low; would find process tortorous to point of mental damage. Potential solution: control sacrifice via blood-possession (a willing host can 'sleep' within a wakeful body; have tested). Must be willing to reveal blood possession to sacrifice.

Option b: ensoul Genome body with restless dead waiting beneath all pasture.
Cons: need to restrain body, danger, need to get dead into body and not just make bones crawl out of ground. Chance of spiritual contamination?

Pros: no specific individuals of particular mettle required

GROWTH MEDIUM/LIGHT
Herd mentality a damn bulb. Just bulb. Spotlight shape. To point at Function Ball. Get wire. Prepare vacuum sealable space made of conductive material.

After encoding DNA, collect proper wavelength data, THEN cannibalize interpreter for power/calibration. Stuff it in the vacuum sealed "boiler," possibly in pieces. BOIL IT (euphemism) (magic)

Cons: we get one shot, so if any data incorrect, 💀. Seal fails, 💀. Need to employ IMMEDIATELY once preparations in place.

Pros: toss extra slivers of broken crystals in if still have them?
Pros: no Red involved. Bulb model thinking of mundane object, only needs sliver of interpreter inserted (short range precision teleport of sliver into bulb) (yes know can do this done before not in pasture reasonably still could). Easily make multiple bulb if breaks.

Edited Date: 2024-08-20 08:05 am (UTC)

From:

finalbows

[ he folds it up along the same creases it had been already, and leaves his room. checks, first, to see if their foyer is deserted. ]

From:

wants_the_phd

[There doesn't seem to be anyone out here at the moment. The house is quiet.]

From:

finalbows

...

_{[ he sidles up to a bookcase-- that looks more like a rock collection, if you don't know much about Terra. he lets his fingers play over each one... ]}

How much of this could I bear to part with for kindling, I wonder...?

_{[ ah. there's one he doesn't much care to keep extant in the pasture. some theoretical principles behind creating stable anti-magic fields, a la the Gulug Stone.

let's chop and print over the important parts of THAT, with the nitty gritty details of the New Plan. The exact kind of bulb. Where he'd put the chunk of recycled interpeter inside it. Dimensions for what is, essentially, going to be the most hackneyed popsicle-stick generator he's ever made.

It doesnt need longevity, after all, it just needs to WORK and be able to be contrived in a BARNYARD.

...
Now if something happens the idea of it isn't trapped, or lost, in his own skull. ]}

Edited Date: 2024-08-20 07:35 pm (UTC)

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wants_the_phd

[BUT WHAT IF WE NEED TO MAKE A GULUG STONE!!! well, it's probably fine. He surely has it memorized by now anyway.]

From:

finalbows

[ but getting to taunt her with his potential weakness obscured by her salvation is sooooo worth it though ]

[ the defaced "book" he carries with him into the kitchen, along with the note. and then he puts her amended checklist up on the fridge with some magnets. thinks.

writes "READ ASAP" on it. Addressed to no one in specific. Fuck it. If the rest of Rose reads the plan, mores the better for sourcing the ingredients. ]

Edited Date: 2024-08-20 07:47 pm (UTC)

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wants_the_phd

[Bold of you to assume there isn't a book and/or crystal in this entire barn she hasn't already ransacked for knowledge as soon as the library manifested. She was trying to find instructions for Aides, after all.]

[...Whether she was fully able to grock the contents is another story.]

[It's hours before he gets any kind of response, so if the timeline was shaky before, it probably is even moreso now. Is it day? Is it night? Is Angie a man? Or a wolf? It is a mystery.]

[...But eventually a cube pops up.]

I don't know enough about genome biology. If a function ball is removed, does the whole person die, or can the ball be replaced into the body -- or a different body -- with the living soul still attached?

From:

finalbows

[ answer:

she reaches a wolfcube with a cartoon bone in its mouth. he daintily puts it down. Ahems. ]

If the brain has matured to the point it can support itself autonomously, the body doesn't die. This can take months to years depending on the amount of lifestyle stress placed on the individual...

The soul doesn't attach to it any more than any other part of the body; in this world, anyway, I have concluded we are considered to inhabit in some amount all parts of our physical frame. Consider it more like a gate that eases the passage of a foreign soul into the flesh. So... you'd want to keep the body alive to keep everything well anchored, I suppose...

...

On that note, having one WILL make you more intrinsically vulnerable to possession.

Edited Date: 2024-08-20 08:32 pm (UTC)

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wants_the_phd

[Can he sense her sly and very pointed look in his cube's direction?]

Is that right?

[seems like she has been wasting some opportunities...!]

From:

finalbows

...That one can learn to compensate for with practice, so don't even start.

[ the "practice" is at least a partial lie. That one time people summoned a fish god angie literally went and hid at the other end of the pasture so that he could avoid it MAYBE getting grabby. ]

Edited Date: 2024-08-20 08:43 pm (UTC)

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wants_the_phd

[Haha]

So putting my soul in a disembodied function ball and growing a body around it is unfeasible, is what I'm hearing. Is that correct?

From:

finalbows

Oh! No. [ delighted! ] That's VERY feasible.

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wants_the_phd

Is it?

Would that eliminate the need to use a third party to prime it?

Edited Date: 2024-08-20 09:04 pm (UTC)

From:

finalbows

Might run out of power and have to start healing you through it to get a COMPLETE body, but if you're not too precious about having all your skin right away...

[ a pause. ]

Edited Date: 2024-08-20 09:12 pm (UTC)

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finalbows

I feel like I'm missing a step on then stair, though. Give me the play by play as you're picturing it now.

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wants_the_phd

We take the ball from your limbus duplicate. If we can't get it to interface with the interpreter -- which we should definitely try first -- when I die, we put my soul directly into the ball. The ball will then, theoretically, become functional, and we inscribe my genetics on it.

Then we cannibalize the interpreter, toss the ball in a vat or whatever, and boil it until it's cooked.

On the one hand, this would be more streamlined if we didnt have to do the hokey-pokey with a third-party soul. On the other hand, I don't love the idea of being conscious for any of that.

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finalbows

An issue with the limbus duplicate is it needs to be ensouled so parts we remove STAY those parts, right...? Or am I misrecalling...?

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wants_the_phd

In the trials I've done, a limbus body part doesn't take on the properties of meat until it gets attached to a living, ensouled body. If it's cut off, it returns to being plant matter.

Since the ball isn't exactly meat, I don't know if it can or can't be used while it's inanimate. I have to assume not, just because this place seems to be intentionally making this as hard as possible.

But how much of a body is needed to put a soul in it? If I stuck a disembodied arm in the fountain, would that be enough? If so, could we do that to the ball?

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wants_the_phd

Another thing I'm wondering is, if we stuck the ball inside my body -- whether the original one or a limbus copy -- and then shone a light on me, would the ball repair my failing parts with the "idealized" body it's been programmed with?

There's a lot of untrod territory here.

From:

finalbows

At the encoding stage, we have flex, but once we cannibalize the interpreter, we're done.

...

What steps are stopping us from from ensouling the body and butchering it today for the Function Ball, then coding it? They don't rot.

Edited Date: 2024-08-20 10:08 pm (UTC)

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wants_the_phd

What's stopping us is the lack of a volunteer willing to be butchered twice.

Also, once the soul is removed from the encoded ball, it may turn back into plant material and no longer work to grow a body around it.

...Could we get an original, non-limbus function ball from Red, do you think?

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